For Episode #3 of Finding Good, host Andrew McCourt went hiking with author, speaker, and pastor Megan Fate Marshman to talk about knowing we are meant for good, and how that knowledge impacts the way we live our lives and treat others.
During the discussion, Megan shared personal experiences on how God has used painful events in the past for good, and explained how we can see the good in others and in ourselves.
Below is an excerpt from the interview:
Andrew: Let’s be really practical – how, in your life, do you discover God’s plans?
Megan: I think the key, weirdly enough, is leaning heavily on His promise and letting go of trying to figure out the plan. For years, I’d go to people’s homes and they would do the highs and lows of the week. [My family and I] added a question in there because I wanted to take God at His Word. I wanted to embrace the plan that He had for us, not just in the future but at the dinner table. So we added this one: how did you see God today?
I decided to add it into our family dinner table discussion before I had kids, so I decided to practice on my nieces and nephews. I practiced it with my 8-year-old niece, Georgia. [One day], around the table, I asked “So how did you see God today?” and she said, “I saw God swimming.” I thought, Okay, maybe this isn’t for her, until she went on.
She said, “I know how to swim. My little siblings, they don’t. But the truth, it’s kind of like faith. I jump into the water, and I’m watching my little nieces and nephews splash around in the shallow water thinking that that’s the best there is. But really, faith requires a risk to jump in. And so when I’m jumping into the deep, it’s almost like I’m jumping into something. You have to jump in, you have to risk because there’s more to life than just splashing anyways. That’s how I saw God.”
Andrew: So in your book, you make this other incredible observation. It’s so simple, but it’s profound about Jesus and His ministry. It’s made up of seeing and doing something. He sees something, and then he goes, and he does some good about it. Unpack that for us.
Megan: I think it’s so applicable to us. When it comes to Jesus seeing and then doing, He wants to use our eyes to see, because it’s with our eyes that we can see what’s going on and where good needs to be brought. And then we need to trust that God’s plan – for His goodness to be brought – might be done through us. What we do matters, because it’s what Jesus is doing.
Want to hear the rest of the interview? Tune into the third episode of Finding Good below!